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  Jehovah Witness vs Jehovah's Witness

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  being brought up as a jehovah's witness means you are so used to the term that you rarely stop to think about it.. one thing i've noticed is that people unfamiliar with the religion will say "jehovah witness" (no 's) instead which i always found a bit grating.. but watching the us election, something struck me.

  people are often referred to as "trump supporters", not "trump's supporters" and so on.

  thinking about other things, people would say they were "united fan's", not "united's fans" and so on.. it seems weird that a group would refer to themselves as though it was someone else talking about them (in the 3rd person, if i have that right).. what do you think?

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  stan livedeath

  @ Simon

  
  

  I forget the name of the comedian in the UK but I remember the line "someone came to my door and said they were a Jehovah Witness, I said I didn't even know there'd been an accident".

  that was the late Tommy Cooper---i saw it on tv.

  
  
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  Why it's a waste of time talking to JW's

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i believe it to be a waste of time talking to, reasoning with, jw's if you expect any kind of quick result.. many of us when we first wake up think that 'coz ttatt is blindingly obvious to us, it will soon get through to our jw loved ones.. this simply isn't so for a couple of important reasons.

  the first is that, if someone believes something is true, or the truth, to them it really is, without doubt, true.

  so whatever you say must be wrong somehow.. the second problem is that jw's simply do not have to use, or pay any attention to facts and logic.

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  stan livedeath

  try all you like--but a simple fact of life is-----

  ---you cannot polish a turd.
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  Flying Scotsman Visits My Town

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. current

  the iconic steam engine the flying scotsman has been restored and is back on tour along the east coast main line between london and edinburgh.

  this evening it crossed the royal border bridge in berwick-on-tweed for the first time since it was put out of service in january 1963.. here are few shots.. .

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  Flying Scotsman Visits My Town

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. current

  the iconic steam engine the flying scotsman has been restored and is back on tour along the east coast main line between london and edinburgh.

  this evening it crossed the royal border bridge in berwick-on-tweed for the first time since it was put out of service in january 1963.. here are few shots.. .

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  stan livedeath

  @Stan,
  

  Thanks a lot for mentioning that.

  Now I felt compelled to look up what "blinkers" are on steam engine, and what the difference is between German style and others, and invenstigated the biography of Richard Paul Wagner who designed the blinkers you like.

  so now i go into "rivet counter" mode.

  those smoke deflectors are actually " Witte" type--whereas "Wagner" type are somewhat larger.

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_deflectors

  sorry--i'll shut up and go home now.
  
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  Flying Scotsman Visits My Town

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. current

  the iconic steam engine the flying scotsman has been restored and is back on tour along the east coast main line between london and edinburgh.

  this evening it crossed the royal border bridge in berwick-on-tweed for the first time since it was put out of service in january 1963.. here are few shots.. .

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  stan livedeath

  I like Scotsman with the German style "blinkers"
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  The Jehovah`s Witness / Watchtower Religion is Just Another American Born Cult Religion

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the international bible students association of charles taze russell and his associates were influenced by other cults of his time most of which believed they were living in the last days , the end times of bible prophecy .. some of which were , the many adventists sects , the christadelphians , mormons ,and the adventists playing a huge influence on russells writings,.

  was charles taze russell chosen by jehovah to lead a revival of the true religion on earth ?

  over a hundred years ago ?.

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  stan livedeath

  i remember when my mum first dragged me to a meeting--i was about 11 years old. i can still remember a lot of the brothers seemed to be talking with an american accent. this was in the UK--about 56 years ago.
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  Do do do do do you remember..

  by tim hooper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does anyone else recall the big chart that hung at the front of every kingdom hall?.

  it would be about 5 feet x 4 feet.

  on the side of the chart, vertically listed, were the months of the year.

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  stan livedeath

  i'm very sad to say i remember those charts all too well.

  i wish i hadnt read this thread now lol.
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  The two paths of exJWs

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it's easy to think of exjws as being a single amorphous group but the more i think about it, the more i believe that there are two distinct sub-groups and wonder if you agree.. there are those who believe and those who don't.

  i know that seems obvious but let's break it down a bit more.

  there are those who don't and never believed and some who are looking for a religion to match their beliefs.. i used to think this split would be between born-ins and converts but of course it's possible for born-ins to be believers although i suspect that many, like with other faiths, do so simply because they have never experienced anything else or made a conscious choice.

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  stan livedeath

  i wasnt born in. my mother got religion when i was about 9 years old--and can remember going to meetings from about 11.

  dad followed mom into it--and he got baptised in 1962. so did i--to please mum as several other kids in the congregation were getting dipped too--and i guess it was peer pressure. i hadnt a tits clue what i was getting into--i was 14.

  i left school at 16--and within 6 months was pioneering--again--peer pressure. Ron Drage had been giving it large at the assemblies about teenagers becoming pioneers.

  i never really thought much about the religion in those days--it was simply what we were. i started courting at 17--married at 20---and then came to think long and hard about religion over the next 3 years.

  i just knew i couldnt care less about god--the bible--and any religion. i quit the jw's when i was 23--and have had no interest in any religion ever since.
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  Berkshire Circuit (UK)

  by Dont_Believe_The_Truth in

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  2. friends

  i'm hearing rumours of huge changes within the berkshire circuit here in the uk .

  congregations being dispanded and kingdom halls closing down and being sold off.... official announcements within the next month apparently .

  does anyone else have anymore info?.

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  you would at least think they would hide or remove the sign on the building. what a fine witness for jehovah. up for sale.
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  I'm getting baptized

  by BlackWolf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know i've started similar topics before but this time i'm serious.

  my parents have been constantly pressuring me and after yesterday's watchtower study they asked me if i was going to be baptized this summer... and i said yes.

  i probably should have thought about it more before making a final decision, but they're pretty much forcing me to do it anyway.

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  stan livedeath

  hey Wolf---just forget to take your speedos. they wont dip you if your bare ass nekkid.